To DC
TL Davis sends; see also here.
I know that there are many who say too little, too late, too far, too few.
Know that many who will participate see things that way, too.
Do what you can, even if it is just spreading the word.
And don't forget about your reps' home offices. You can get there, right?
Forward.
posted by Concerned American | 6:09 PM
19 Comments:
AWESOME I will be there!!!
http://theelectedretards.blogspot.com/
Don't forget the help you can give financially to the effort if you can't go for whatever reason....and buy "The Constitutionalist" and spread it around. It's worth the $5 a copy.
Admirable. Eloquently presented. Painstakingly organized. And doomed to failure I fear.
However, I will pray for the success of this venture. It will need God's help because tyrannies, even fledgling ones, are generally not talked out of existence.
In total agreement with Allan W. Mullenax. What I've been saying for ages. They are not afraid of us, mere words of protest will not sway them one bit. I fear the Mall police will win this one.
Semper Fi, 0321
I will be there at some point, maybe the second or third week to relieve someone else. that'll be determined at a later date
as for those who say that this is "too little, too late" and it's "doomed to failure", i ask you: can you honestly tell your progeny that you did absolutely everything you possibly could to avoid to bloodshed?
i/you may think the bloodshed is inevitable at this point, but i'm still damn sure going to do everything in my power to try to avoid it.
i kinda like being able to look at the man in the mirror every day without being ashamed that i didn't try everything possible
and who knows, yours could be the voice that makes the difference
I will be doing all I can to suport this endevor in every way that I can.
Dennis
III
Texas
p.s. even if it fails I can not turn my back.
Ditto! Awesome idea... we are in!
Alan... doomed to failure... maybe... but in what sense? In changing DC? Most unlikely... however, WE have a MORAL obligation to try all peaceable means necessary before we are wishing for these old days when we are hunkered down in a fox-hole.
Carry on!
I would admonish all of you that we also have a moral obligation to preserve the Republic of our Forefathers. And as I view it, there ain't a whole lot left of that Republic.
I greatly appreciate the view that we have a moral obligation to exhaust all peaceable means to preserve the Republic. Perhaps one of you could enlighten me. How many peaceable means are left to exhaust? As our blog host has so appropriately stated, tempus fugit.
One of my biggest concerns is that we might be substituting peaceable means for courage. I pray that is not the case, because if it is, they've won. God damn it. They've won.
The Bad People game plan is as follows:
- Maintain the semblance of normalcy and conventional means of redress (while effectively mooting them via any means necessary)
- Advance the collective via generational indoctrination and mass propaganda with false "competing views" [e.g., Fox vs CNN]
- Always increase the number and segments of society dependent on the G's teat
- Ignore those who are not down with their program
Did I miss anything?
That being said, there are some necessary fails, IMHO, left before alternative dispute resolution commences.
The Winter/Spring 2011 protests are part of that fail cycle.
Necessary fail.
I like the concept, and agree.
It is necessary, and will fail.
Thus, it is a success -in that it accomplishes what it was meant to do...fail- before it even happens.
I personally think that it should happen and fail in the manner that the Brits' recent protests have failed, but that's just my opinion.
Necessary fail cycle.
Now you're speaking in terms of victory, CA, now you're thinking "outside the framework in which our current problems were created". Only in this way can we ultimately win. We cannot see a protest as a fight that will result in a victory, but as a weapon in a larger fight that will lead to victory.
A tank, a bomb, a rifle, these things do not win fights. They are tools. It is the warrior, his spirit, his skill and strength that win the fight. Not the tools. These protests are not the fight. They are tools. You don't win because you have a rifle. You win because you use the rifle skillfully, as an extension of your will.
Seeing them as THE FIGHT WE MUST WIN leads to defeat and despair. Seeing them as a merely another TOOL TO FIGHT THE ENEMY leads to situational awareness and further strategic and tactical planning.
Necessary fail cycle.
I like.
You're on to something.
More, please.
Justin
Pete, please forgive me, but I must.
Necessary fail? You do understand that no tactician in the history of the world would integrate "necessary fails" into his strategy.
Your points of the the Bad Guy's game plan are duly noted and agreed to. That game plan has been in place now for about 100 years and is now subject to almost daily acceleration. That acceleration is due in total to Patriot inaction.
Therefore, I ask you sir, why is it not at this time appropriate to assume the mantel provided by our Forefathers and engage in direct confrontation in violation of their unconstitutional laws instead of groveling unarmed, subject to illegal search, and freezing our asses off in D.C. in January?
I ask this with utmost respect. My measure of you tells me that you should have the answer. It is my earnest hope that you can convince me that I am wrong.
TBP (The Bad People, who are also the powers that be [PTB]) want large-scale public shooting from "right-wing domestic extremists" in the worst way.
That will justify a whole pile of repressive measures which, in conjunction to the relentless propagandizing from the MSM, will ratchet things even tighter.
While that might be a recruiting tool for the FreeFor, I am coming to an utterly unpalatable conclusion, based on seven years of observation and agitation:
People in this country who believe in and are willing to act in support of truly limited government and true individual freedom are extraordinarily rare.
It might be 10,000 people nationwide.
Maybe fewer.
10000/300000000+ ain't a real big number.
In that denominator, there are at least several hundred thousand folks who still believe that the system can and will work.
The proposition "the system can still work" needs to be tested once again for the nth time in the real world.
The DC protests are a part of that test, as was the November election and the naming of Congressman Paul to the House subcommittee that oversees the Fed.
If you don't like the phrase, consider alternative "an exhaustion of remedies" or "ongoing experiments in representative government".
Sometimes an experiment proves the proposition being tested.
Sometimes, it disproves same.
But the experiment needs to be run, even when the outcome is reasonably foreseeable, so as to provide a factual basis for future experiments.
And if the "the system can work" proposition is tested and fails (as it has to date), then some of those several hundred thousand last-ditch believers in AmCivics 101 will move over to the secession/state & local autonomy path.
Put yourself in Gaul of the First Century AD.
In staring eyeball to eyeball with Rome, would you rather have 10000 fellow Gauls with you, or 11000? How about 12000 -- would that be better still?
One final point: if Zimbabwe Ben and his globobank pals like Timmy the Tax Cheat and the multiheaded Cleggeron beast in the UK actually can't land the worldwide finance aircraft, is the FreeFor better off or worse off by maintaining discipline in the last weeks/months of "normalcy"?
Alan, I always say that free men and women are always free to act in accordance with their ethics and their acceptance of responsibility for both the intended and unintended consequences of their actions.
They're free, you know?
And free men and women know that their leader is the person whose face shows up, every morning, in the mirror as they brush their teeth.
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Alan:
One other thing -- they haven't won yet.
You are still alive.
So am I.
Forward....
Asked:
"Therefore, I ask you sir, why is it not at this time appropriate to assume the mantel provided by our Forefathers and engage in direct confrontation in violation of their unconstitutional laws instead of groveling unarmed, subject to illegal search, and freezing our asses off in D.C. in January?"
It is, of course, entirely appropriate, if that is what one wishes to do.
Consequences are a b#%@& though. Free to act, free to suffer consequences.
No tactician would use "necessary fails"? Names and places escape me, but medieval warfare is full of armies baiting their enemies into the open and sending in the knights. To the peasant soldiers, it was a FAIL, as they were slaughtered waiting on the knights to spring the trap.
"Necessary fails" were used many times in Iraq and A-stan to bait our marines into ambushes. The original contacts were failures, necessary to escalate and maneuver into the advantage.
The 1st day at Gettysburg? For Union forces, Fail. Without it though, they would have been crushed piecemeal. Capitalizing on it, they emerged victorious.
And let us not forget Thermopolae. Complete fail. Completely necessary.
By all means though, assume the mantel. I was where you are. Any direct action now would be "Hutaree-ized", mark my words. Demonized, abandoned, imprisoned. Fail. You know it.
Maybe I'm off base.
History is full of necessary failures.
This will "fail" only in the sense that it will not change anything. If that is your hope, I am sorry. This COULD BE a wild success, if one takes the long view.
Necessary Fail? Perhaps this could be one.
Let me know if I'm off base, CA.
Justin
So, Peter, I take it that I should dispense with the notion of half a million armed Patriots on the Mall in Washington, D.C. This despite the fact that half a million bikers will descend on Sturgis.
You paint a bleak picture my friend. One that inspires no confidence at all.
If I understand your premise correctly, we're to wait until it all falls apart in the hope that a pitiful number increases by some factor.
For the love of God man! Is that what we've been reduced to? Men whose freedom hinges on chance? Do you believe that our Founding Fathers chose such a road? I think not. They chose a path of confrontation and armed struggle to secure their liberty and that of their posterity.
Their teaching tells me that I should do no less in preserving that liberty for myself and my posterity.
They groveled, they pleaded, and sustained all manner of disrespect in order to provide an object lesson for us.
I am ashamed. I am ashamed of myself and my countrymen that we cannot find the courage to confront that which we inherently know is evil and contrary to our way of life. A life that was bestowed upon us with the blood of many a Patriot.
Sorry. Just how I feel.
Alan:
I wish I could imagine a realistic scenario that would produce a half-million armed Americans on the Mall.
I simply can't.
Ask yourself why we had so few, where it was legal to be armed, on the Virginia banks of the Potomac last April.
Ask yourself why the unarmed people that same day had so relatively few in DC.
I wish I had good words for you. Hell, I wish I had them for me.
I simply don't.
All I can do is to keep trying.
Or not. Today, I almost folded the flag.
But it passed.
Hope you keep marching along with us...
I apologize for my apoplectic outburst. I assure you that I mean no disrespect... but God damn it, this sorry state of affairs pisses me off.
There's something missing. Has it been forgotten? Was it not passed on? Or was it stolen? The essence of what truly is American is in my estimation extremely rare today. We've been neutered.
I guess my view couples with your estimation of the numbers. You understand that I am very fearful. Fearful that I will die alone in a rather insignificant encounter and that the "thing" the resonates in my being will disappear from the face of the earth without so much as a word in real defiance.
Peter, yes, we are alive. The Flag is not to be folded until the last Patriot draws his last breath. I'm not going anywhere. At least not until after my last breath.
We're in a world of shit aren't we?
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