The Problem Is Islam
Reprinted in full with permission from the author:
THE PROBLEM IS ISLAM. (PART 1)
POSTED BY ANN BARNHARDT - MARCH 21, AD 2011 1:34 PM MST
It’s time again for me to lay down in writing a simple, obvious truth that everyone else is just too terrified to state. This is another one of those essays that will serve to permanently disqualify me from any vocation except self-employment for the duration of my life. So hold on to your pantyhose and put out the cat, because you know this is going to be a good read.
The issue is the muslim world. Libya. Was it right for Obama to FINALLY make a decision and move our military assets into the Libyan theater? Should we be intervening in Yemen? Should we lend tangible support to the Iranian opposition? What should have been done differently in Egypt? Was Mubarak better than a “democratically” installed Sharia theocracy? What are we supposed to be doing in all of this? Who are we supposed to be rooting for? There has to be a “right answer”, and there has to be a correct course of action in all of this.
The reason why no one can come to anything that remotely approaches a definitive “right answer” to this problem is because no one has the balls to acknowledge what the problem is. The problem is not a lack of democracy. As we are clearly seeing now, and as history repeatedly confirms, the most evil political systems ever seen on earth have ascended to power with the support of more than 50% of the populace. Therefore, democracy, or any form of representative government can not, in and of itself, be the “right answer”. The only way we are ever going to arrive at the right answer is if we first ask and honestly answer the following question: What exactly is the problem?
The problem is islam.
Let me say that again so that there is absolutely no confusion. The problem is islam. So long as islam exists on earth, there will be no peace, and there will be no freedom for those trapped inside of it. So long as islam exists, it will continue to stir up violence, aggression, war, terrorism, instability, injustice, human slavery, hopelessness, suffering, despair and unnatural, needless death. Why? BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED TO DO. All of those qualities are intrinsic, constitutive qualities of islam. It is a satanic system that was specifically created to be the Enemy’s response to Christ.
Mohammed did not hear a voice which he transcribed and called “the koran”. He simply sat down and wrote out a political manifesto – claiming in fully calculated deceit that it was divine - that would enable him to raise an army. There was nothing miraculous about the origin of islam in that sense. One of the obvious confirmations of this is the quality of the prose itself. If “allah” actually wrote the koran and mohammed merely transcribed it, then allah is an idiot with exceptionally poor language and composition skills. The koran reads as if it were written by a mentally deranged, barely literate Bedouin pedophile pirate con-artist . . . because it was. BUT, the system itself and the spirit of inspiration behind it is completely satanic. Islam and the koran are completely satanic in the same sense that Marxism and “The Communist Manifesto” are satanic, and in the same sense that Nazism and “Mein Kampf” are satanic. Oh, yes. The Serpent is subtle. Satan does his best work when he is merely “whispering” subconscious inspiration to fallen men. Given that islam has persisted for 1400 years and now enslaves a quarter of the human population, it is clearly satan’s masterpiece.
Given this reality, there are exactly two tactical options for the civilized world to choose from.
1. Completely isolate the muslim world. Let them have their caliphate but in a state of total quarantine.
This would involve establishing massive physical perimeter barriers on land and maintaining blockades at sea for all muslim territories. Presumably this would stretch from Morocco to Indonesia, and would be massively expensive both to construct and secure. In addition to this, all muslims would have to be expelled from all civilized nations and forcibly returned to muslim territory. In order for this to work, all civilized nations on earth would have to unite in solidarity against islam and cooperate fully and completely in building, maintaining and securing the borders.
Additionally, the quarantine would have to be TOTAL, meaning absolutely no interaction – including economic interaction. Therefore, before this strategy could be undertaken, the civilized world would need to completely free itself of any dependence on oil pumped from muslim territory.
Further, this strategy, while appearing to be the most “non-violent” option is actually the most violent, and would be a de facto death sentence, both physically and spiritually, for every person trapped inside the caliphate. Assuming that the perimeter could be constructed and then sealed, the muslim culture would necessarily begin to murder and consume itself. Remember, islam is violence, aggression, war, terrorism, instability, injustice, human slavery, hopelessness, suffering, despair and unnatural, needless death. If muslims aren’t in a position to kill “infidels”, they will simply turn on each other. This is already a proven fact, and has been for 1400 years. Sunni and Shia muslims have been at each other’s throats all along, and still are today. Only in very rare instances, such as the wars of aggression begun by muslims called “the Crusades”, wherein muslim unity was needed to fight the “infidels”, has there been any real muslim unity. Because islam has no central authority or magesterium, unlike Christianity which was specifically established by Christ Himself with a divinely protected structure of authority and infallible teaching charism, islam allows for every single self-ordained “imam” to be his own “pope” who can then alter, decide and concoct “doctrine”, and to also issue “fatwas” against any competing cleric, or entire groups of people. Islam has been specifically designed to discourage unity, thus always fomenting and encouraging conflicts and wars within the caliphate itself.
Next, islam is incapable of supporting a vibrant economy. Islam teaches that all human endeavors and productivity are contrary to the will of allah. Any person who spends any time or effort doing anything except studying the koran and praying to allah is an infidel. Additionally, islam teaches that the only way that a person can be GUARANTEED of “salvation” or “paradise” is to die in jihad. Therefore, muslims will ALWAYS be in a state of war against someone, including other muslims, because if there were total peace, there would be no means to achieve “salvation” according to muslim teaching.
Finally, the quarantine option would be a failure in charity on the part of Christendom. By quarantining these people, we would be giving up on them, which is the opposite of charity, or love. Quarantined muslims would have absolutely no chance or hope of hearing the Gospel, and would have no hope of ever escaping the cult of islam. While this option might serve to help keep our hands physically clean, we would have the spiritual stain of our failure in charity to answer for upon our judgement.
The issue is the muslim world. Libya. Was it right for Obama to FINALLY make a decision and move our military assets into the Libyan theater? Should we be intervening in Yemen? Should we lend tangible support to the Iranian opposition? What should have been done differently in Egypt? Was Mubarak better than a “democratically” installed Sharia theocracy? What are we supposed to be doing in all of this? Who are we supposed to be rooting for? There has to be a “right answer”, and there has to be a correct course of action in all of this.
The reason why no one can come to anything that remotely approaches a definitive “right answer” to this problem is because no one has the balls to acknowledge what the problem is. The problem is not a lack of democracy. As we are clearly seeing now, and as history repeatedly confirms, the most evil political systems ever seen on earth have ascended to power with the support of more than 50% of the populace. Therefore, democracy, or any form of representative government can not, in and of itself, be the “right answer”. The only way we are ever going to arrive at the right answer is if we first ask and honestly answer the following question: What exactly is the problem?
The problem is islam.
Let me say that again so that there is absolutely no confusion. The problem is islam. So long as islam exists on earth, there will be no peace, and there will be no freedom for those trapped inside of it. So long as islam exists, it will continue to stir up violence, aggression, war, terrorism, instability, injustice, human slavery, hopelessness, suffering, despair and unnatural, needless death. Why? BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED TO DO. All of those qualities are intrinsic, constitutive qualities of islam. It is a satanic system that was specifically created to be the Enemy’s response to Christ.
Mohammed did not hear a voice which he transcribed and called “the koran”. He simply sat down and wrote out a political manifesto – claiming in fully calculated deceit that it was divine - that would enable him to raise an army. There was nothing miraculous about the origin of islam in that sense. One of the obvious confirmations of this is the quality of the prose itself. If “allah” actually wrote the koran and mohammed merely transcribed it, then allah is an idiot with exceptionally poor language and composition skills. The koran reads as if it were written by a mentally deranged, barely literate Bedouin pedophile pirate con-artist . . . because it was. BUT, the system itself and the spirit of inspiration behind it is completely satanic. Islam and the koran are completely satanic in the same sense that Marxism and “The Communist Manifesto” are satanic, and in the same sense that Nazism and “Mein Kampf” are satanic. Oh, yes. The Serpent is subtle. Satan does his best work when he is merely “whispering” subconscious inspiration to fallen men. Given that islam has persisted for 1400 years and now enslaves a quarter of the human population, it is clearly satan’s masterpiece.
Given this reality, there are exactly two tactical options for the civilized world to choose from.
1. Completely isolate the muslim world. Let them have their caliphate but in a state of total quarantine.
This would involve establishing massive physical perimeter barriers on land and maintaining blockades at sea for all muslim territories. Presumably this would stretch from Morocco to Indonesia, and would be massively expensive both to construct and secure. In addition to this, all muslims would have to be expelled from all civilized nations and forcibly returned to muslim territory. In order for this to work, all civilized nations on earth would have to unite in solidarity against islam and cooperate fully and completely in building, maintaining and securing the borders.
Additionally, the quarantine would have to be TOTAL, meaning absolutely no interaction – including economic interaction. Therefore, before this strategy could be undertaken, the civilized world would need to completely free itself of any dependence on oil pumped from muslim territory.
Further, this strategy, while appearing to be the most “non-violent” option is actually the most violent, and would be a de facto death sentence, both physically and spiritually, for every person trapped inside the caliphate. Assuming that the perimeter could be constructed and then sealed, the muslim culture would necessarily begin to murder and consume itself. Remember, islam is violence, aggression, war, terrorism, instability, injustice, human slavery, hopelessness, suffering, despair and unnatural, needless death. If muslims aren’t in a position to kill “infidels”, they will simply turn on each other. This is already a proven fact, and has been for 1400 years. Sunni and Shia muslims have been at each other’s throats all along, and still are today. Only in very rare instances, such as the wars of aggression begun by muslims called “the Crusades”, wherein muslim unity was needed to fight the “infidels”, has there been any real muslim unity. Because islam has no central authority or magesterium, unlike Christianity which was specifically established by Christ Himself with a divinely protected structure of authority and infallible teaching charism, islam allows for every single self-ordained “imam” to be his own “pope” who can then alter, decide and concoct “doctrine”, and to also issue “fatwas” against any competing cleric, or entire groups of people. Islam has been specifically designed to discourage unity, thus always fomenting and encouraging conflicts and wars within the caliphate itself.
Next, islam is incapable of supporting a vibrant economy. Islam teaches that all human endeavors and productivity are contrary to the will of allah. Any person who spends any time or effort doing anything except studying the koran and praying to allah is an infidel. Additionally, islam teaches that the only way that a person can be GUARANTEED of “salvation” or “paradise” is to die in jihad. Therefore, muslims will ALWAYS be in a state of war against someone, including other muslims, because if there were total peace, there would be no means to achieve “salvation” according to muslim teaching.
Finally, the quarantine option would be a failure in charity on the part of Christendom. By quarantining these people, we would be giving up on them, which is the opposite of charity, or love. Quarantined muslims would have absolutely no chance or hope of hearing the Gospel, and would have no hope of ever escaping the cult of islam. While this option might serve to help keep our hands physically clean, we would have the spiritual stain of our failure in charity to answer for upon our judgement.
THE PROBLEM IS ISLAM. (PART 2)
POSTED BY ANN BARNHARDT - MARCH 21, AD 2011 1:32 PM MST
This brings us to option #2, which is actually the more viable and certainly the more loving and charitable option.
2. Fight a Final Crusade and exterminate islam from the face of the earth once and for all.
Yep. I said it, and I mean it.
This option isn’t really an “option” at all, because this is where we are heading whether we like it or not. There is going to be a massive, final war between islam and the civilized world at some point. The only real question is, how long are we going to stall it off? A week? A month? A year? A decade? A century? Some would argue that the Final Crusade actually began on 9/11, and that we have been fighting minor skirmishes ever since. Perhaps. If that is the case, the civilized world clearly does not understand that it is in a fight for its very survival. There isn’t room enough in this world for both human civilization AND islam. One side is going to be destroyed by the other. If islam wins, then humanity will be dead as well, because it will be just a matter of time before islam consumes itself, as outlined above. If civilization wins, humanity will continue, knowledge and technology will increase, there will be joy and laughter and goodness, and human beings will be free to seek and find God. In this way, islam is exactly like cancer. Either a person destroys the cancer within them and survives, or the cancer wins and both the person AND the cancer die. Given that the civilized world still doesn’t understand what is going on, I don’t think it is fair to say that the Final Crusade has begun. It will begin when we comprehend that it is us or them – kill or be killed. Let’s do a quick exercise in linguistics which will prove that extermination of the islamic political system is the only real, practical and charitable option that we have.
Consider the following statement:
The Nazi Party, its philosophy and goal set was evil and had to be stopped. There is no room for the Nazi philosophy in a civilized world, and thus the only acceptable outcome of World War II was the total extermination of the Nazi Party. While the main objective of fighting World War II was to repel and then exterminate the Nazi scourge from overrun nations, the secondary objective was also to liberate the German people themselves from the bonds of the totalitarian Nazi regime.
Now, let’s look at the same statement, but replace “Nazi” with “muslim”:
Islam, its philosophy and goal set is evil and has to be stopped. There is no room for the muslim philosophy in a civilized world, and thus the only acceptable outcome of the Final Crusade is the total extermination of islam. While the main objective of fighting the Final Crusade is to repel and then exterminate the muslim scourge from overrun nations, the secondary objective is also to liberate the currently-muslim people themselves from the bonds of the totalitarian muslim caliphate.
The two statements are pluperfect analogues because Nazism and islam are pluperfect analogues. Both are TOTALITARIAN POLITICAL SYSTEMS. The only tactical difference is that mohammed used the beard of religion and claimed divine inspiration right out of the gate. This has allowed islam to use civilization’s own freedom of religious conscience principle against it. Hitler was indeed trying to slowly create a new pagan religion, with the German/Aryan nation cast as “the father”, Hitler himself cast as “the son” and the “messiah”, and the Nazi Party as “the holy spirit”, but was never far enough along in that process to be able to wield the accusation of “intolerance”.
To illustrate this point, let’s reverse our linguistic example:
Islam is a religion and thus is equal to all other religions. Islam is protected under the First Amendment, and all civilized people must fight to defend a person’s right to practice islam completely unencumbered. Islam seeks only peace through the voluntary application of Sharia law. Just because some muslims have used violence as a way of advancing their cause does not mean that all muslims are violent. Violence is a perversion of true Islamic philosophy. Most muslims are peace-loving, and we should support and embrace them into our culture.
Now, the same statement, but replacing “muslim” with “Nazi”.
Nazism is a religion and thus is equal to all other religions. Nazism is protected under the First Amendment, and all civilized people must fight to defend a person’s right to practice Nazism completely unencumbered. Nazism seeks only peace through the voluntary application of the laws of the Third Reich. Just because some Nazis have used violence as a way of advancing their cause does not mean that all Nazis are violent. Violence is a perversion of true Nazi philosophy. Most Nazis are peace-loving, and we should support and embrace them in our culture.
Have I made my point?
(Aside: How long do you think it will take some leftist to pull that last paragraph, put my name over it as the author, and then claim that they have proof that I am a Nazi? That’s how these sad, pathetic people roll. It WILL happen. It’s just a matter of how long it takes them to do it. C’est la vie.)
We don’t flinch at the reality of Nazism, nor at the necessity to exterminate it from the face of the earth, because we accurately call it what it is: a totalitarian political system. But because we have been brainwashed and conditioned by the left to self-loathe our own Judeo-Christian culture, reject critical thinking, and embrace islam as a constitutionally-protected religion, we refuse to acknowledge the plain, simple fact there will be no peace unless and until islam is exterminated from the face of the earth. We keep telling ourselves that “democracy” is the answer and that if we just facilitate voting in muslim countries, everything will be fine, and the entire world will be enveloped in peace, rainbows, gumdrops and unicorn farts. Because all “religions” are good and equal, and anyone who says different is a bigot and an intolerant hater.
There is going to be a war. A big one. Probably the biggest ever. But it has to be fought, because the stakes are no less than the fate of the entire human race. The problem is islam. There is no such thing as a "healthy muslim society" because islam is a cancer upon human civilization. The solution is nothing less than the complete extermination of the muslim political system in order to save the people inside of it. If you have a cancerous tumor, you cut it out - you don't try to fix the person while simultaneously protecting the tumor. We have done this before. We did this just seventy short years ago. We CAN do it again. All we need is the courage to face the truth, and the fortitude to do what we know we must.
2. Fight a Final Crusade and exterminate islam from the face of the earth once and for all.
Yep. I said it, and I mean it.
This option isn’t really an “option” at all, because this is where we are heading whether we like it or not. There is going to be a massive, final war between islam and the civilized world at some point. The only real question is, how long are we going to stall it off? A week? A month? A year? A decade? A century? Some would argue that the Final Crusade actually began on 9/11, and that we have been fighting minor skirmishes ever since. Perhaps. If that is the case, the civilized world clearly does not understand that it is in a fight for its very survival. There isn’t room enough in this world for both human civilization AND islam. One side is going to be destroyed by the other. If islam wins, then humanity will be dead as well, because it will be just a matter of time before islam consumes itself, as outlined above. If civilization wins, humanity will continue, knowledge and technology will increase, there will be joy and laughter and goodness, and human beings will be free to seek and find God. In this way, islam is exactly like cancer. Either a person destroys the cancer within them and survives, or the cancer wins and both the person AND the cancer die. Given that the civilized world still doesn’t understand what is going on, I don’t think it is fair to say that the Final Crusade has begun. It will begin when we comprehend that it is us or them – kill or be killed. Let’s do a quick exercise in linguistics which will prove that extermination of the islamic political system is the only real, practical and charitable option that we have.
Consider the following statement:
The Nazi Party, its philosophy and goal set was evil and had to be stopped. There is no room for the Nazi philosophy in a civilized world, and thus the only acceptable outcome of World War II was the total extermination of the Nazi Party. While the main objective of fighting World War II was to repel and then exterminate the Nazi scourge from overrun nations, the secondary objective was also to liberate the German people themselves from the bonds of the totalitarian Nazi regime.
Now, let’s look at the same statement, but replace “Nazi” with “muslim”:
Islam, its philosophy and goal set is evil and has to be stopped. There is no room for the muslim philosophy in a civilized world, and thus the only acceptable outcome of the Final Crusade is the total extermination of islam. While the main objective of fighting the Final Crusade is to repel and then exterminate the muslim scourge from overrun nations, the secondary objective is also to liberate the currently-muslim people themselves from the bonds of the totalitarian muslim caliphate.
The two statements are pluperfect analogues because Nazism and islam are pluperfect analogues. Both are TOTALITARIAN POLITICAL SYSTEMS. The only tactical difference is that mohammed used the beard of religion and claimed divine inspiration right out of the gate. This has allowed islam to use civilization’s own freedom of religious conscience principle against it. Hitler was indeed trying to slowly create a new pagan religion, with the German/Aryan nation cast as “the father”, Hitler himself cast as “the son” and the “messiah”, and the Nazi Party as “the holy spirit”, but was never far enough along in that process to be able to wield the accusation of “intolerance”.
To illustrate this point, let’s reverse our linguistic example:
Islam is a religion and thus is equal to all other religions. Islam is protected under the First Amendment, and all civilized people must fight to defend a person’s right to practice islam completely unencumbered. Islam seeks only peace through the voluntary application of Sharia law. Just because some muslims have used violence as a way of advancing their cause does not mean that all muslims are violent. Violence is a perversion of true Islamic philosophy. Most muslims are peace-loving, and we should support and embrace them into our culture.
Now, the same statement, but replacing “muslim” with “Nazi”.
Nazism is a religion and thus is equal to all other religions. Nazism is protected under the First Amendment, and all civilized people must fight to defend a person’s right to practice Nazism completely unencumbered. Nazism seeks only peace through the voluntary application of the laws of the Third Reich. Just because some Nazis have used violence as a way of advancing their cause does not mean that all Nazis are violent. Violence is a perversion of true Nazi philosophy. Most Nazis are peace-loving, and we should support and embrace them in our culture.
Have I made my point?
(Aside: How long do you think it will take some leftist to pull that last paragraph, put my name over it as the author, and then claim that they have proof that I am a Nazi? That’s how these sad, pathetic people roll. It WILL happen. It’s just a matter of how long it takes them to do it. C’est la vie.)
We don’t flinch at the reality of Nazism, nor at the necessity to exterminate it from the face of the earth, because we accurately call it what it is: a totalitarian political system. But because we have been brainwashed and conditioned by the left to self-loathe our own Judeo-Christian culture, reject critical thinking, and embrace islam as a constitutionally-protected religion, we refuse to acknowledge the plain, simple fact there will be no peace unless and until islam is exterminated from the face of the earth. We keep telling ourselves that “democracy” is the answer and that if we just facilitate voting in muslim countries, everything will be fine, and the entire world will be enveloped in peace, rainbows, gumdrops and unicorn farts. Because all “religions” are good and equal, and anyone who says different is a bigot and an intolerant hater.
There is going to be a war. A big one. Probably the biggest ever. But it has to be fought, because the stakes are no less than the fate of the entire human race. The problem is islam. There is no such thing as a "healthy muslim society" because islam is a cancer upon human civilization. The solution is nothing less than the complete extermination of the muslim political system in order to save the people inside of it. If you have a cancerous tumor, you cut it out - you don't try to fix the person while simultaneously protecting the tumor. We have done this before. We did this just seventy short years ago. We CAN do it again. All we need is the courage to face the truth, and the fortitude to do what we know we must.
posted by Concerned American | 1:28 AM
64 Comments:
This lady's got guts.
I won't disagree with what she says, it is a cancer of the mind. But after the christian world eradicates this strain, which one is next? The jews, the hindus, the buddhists, the mormons?
Man will continually find something to kill over, if not religion, then gas, or even just thought. Boot camp starts over with every generation. Welcome to Mankind 101!
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She is merely reiterating what Churchill expressed over 100 years ago. He said that the only way to end slavery in the world was to end islam.
To consider how different islum is from every other religion, just allow the first amendment free exercise clause to permit them application of sharia as a "right."
Every other religion has a live and let live attitude, so absent some pope gaining military power I doubt there would be much of a problem.
Interesting that you could also drop socialism or marxism in there for Nazi and it fits.
A collectivist is a collectivist is a collectivist...whether the Top Dog is Adolf, Uncle Joe, Big Mo, Chairman Mao, or any other hoople.
1. I ain't no lady.
2. So we should just roll over and die because if we actually fight back against islam we'll become addicted to war and be unable to stop? First Mecca, then Salt Lake City? I think not.
3. The Pope has had military power and has used it when necessary throughout the centuries. Up until the last century, just war was realistically understood to be a fact of human existence and part of the vocation of the Church Militant, which is the Church on earth.
4. As our host pointed out, it is all the same. Nazism was Marxist Socialism (as opposed to Communism).
5. Thanks for the post and linky. Outstanding page you have here.
Bingo.
Sadly, she's 100% right.
The problem is our "tolerance" -- until people can be made to understand that it's *NOT* a "religion" -- but a totalitarian, luddite political movement MASQUERADING as religion, WE. ARE. SCREWED.
If anyone doubts how "Armageddon" happens, they're not paying attention.
We WILL have to fight a "war-to-end-all-wars" against this evil - the only question is WHEN.
From all appearances, it will be *AFTER* more of them join the "nuclear club" and after a couple of handfuls of "western" cities are turned into glowing craters.
God help us...
Then again, he did say next time he'd destroy the planet with fire...
People are still deluded into thinking Islam is a religion. It was intentionally created to simulate a religion, to pretend to be a religion, but it is not. It is a death cult. Deadly to non-believers, and deadly to believers of slightly different versions. Deadly to muslim women and female children within Islam itself. Deadly to those few muslims who profess the least bit of tolerance towards non-believers.
As this lady indicates, it is deadly to itself, ultimately. However, if we wait for that ultimate time to arrive, we will be dead ourselves before it gets here.
Knowing that it is a false religion, a made-up religion, a political ideology cloaked in the form of a religion, we have a right and a duty to oppose it. We will save not only ourselves, but those trapped within it.
Those women and female children and homosexuals and apostates who are currently muslim and will die when they question Islam, refuse to submit to a husband, go out in the street without the proper clothing, refuse a forced marriage, refuse to permit their 9 year old daughter to be used for sex by fifty year old imams, and even children who are forcibly raped by male relatives and then beaten to death for that rape.
Keep in mind that, in order to put down Islam, we must be willing to put down its protectors and apologists as well.
Imagine the world without Islam right now. What if everyone just lived in basic harmony like they do in Scandinavia? Islam is surely a satanic inspired scourge upon the earth.
"THE PROBLEM IS ISLAM."
No. The problem is the rejection of personal responsibility and the desire for collectivism by 9 out of 10 human beings. Islam is merely an ordinary instance of collectivism, hardly different from any other dictatorial partnership of church and state.
The God of the Christians is the the magical solution to making a benign dictatorship work. This magical king knows everything so he can do perfect central planning. He is magically exempt from 'power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely'.
Apparently, Ann Barnhardt feels the vermin who are messing up the Reich are not the Jews, but their splinter group, the Muslims. She feels they deserve a Final Solution, and she is just the kind of National Socialist to give it to them. The Western world needs WW3 to emotionally justify and cover for the deprivation that is going to come from the crashing dollar. Only then can faith in politics be preserved.
Islam is a non-problem, and can simply be ignored. Their military capabilities are wimpy, as their economy isn't industrialized enough to invade across an ocean.
CA writes: "A collectivist is a collectivist is a collectivist...whether the Top Dog is Adolf, Uncle Joe, Big Mo, Chairman Mao, or any other hoople."
Correct -- why then are you barking up the wrong tree of Islam? Islam didn't commit US taxpayers to an unpayable amount of debt. Islam didn't steal 95% of the dollar's value in 100 years. Islam didn't do squat to people residing in the continental US. Several thousand people and two office buildings lost to protest a military occupation is not material on this scale.
This lady's got guts.
That she does. I do take issue with this, however: "Further, this strategy, while appearing to be the most “non-violent” option is actually the most violent, and would be a de facto death sentence, both physically and spiritually, for every person trapped inside the caliphate."
I remember reading about an Israeli assassination-by-airstrike, which were very successful for a while. The Israelis called many of the people in the target's neighborhood, telling them to leave the area. In response, the people clustered around the target's house, knowing that their death's would make them martyrs. Many brought their small children.
I'm for the first option because a Western life beats an Eastern one paper-rock-scissors. If there are good and decent Muslims who would be doomed by the great cordon, let them rise up. No one can free them but themselves.
Otherwise, I entirely agree with Ms. Barnhardt. Wake up, libertarians. They don't hate us because of the government's foreign policy. They hate us because we are guilty of the grave sin of denying Allah.
Thank you, finally someone has the will to speak the truth, the blatant obvious truth.
If we Christians followed her suggestion, to wipe them out, then we would no longer be Christians. We will have become a monster to slay the monster.
If we as Christians lived they way Christians should, and not be hypocritical in our personal moral dealings, as well as in our government, Islam would not be an issue--why? because if we really are Christians, we would depend on God to fight our battles for us.
The Savior higher law has since superseded the old law, and we are not to practice "pre-emptive" warfare, or CIA political assassinations.
Finally, such a genocidal course would excommunicate us as Christians before God, admitting that our Lord is weak, and he needs us to do his work for him.
The purpose of the "Good News" was to change men's hearts, as thousands of years of violence proved nothing else would work.
And believe me, we would then be wiping each other out after we finished with the Muslims.
Correctamundo!
One will NEVER be able to deal with Islam until one deals with Islam's enablers. And they are the SAME enablers for The One and Reid and Pelosi and Holder and...
The stench is overwhelming. And it will remain so until it is dealt with. Trying to clean out the septic tank is a waste of time until THEY are taken care of.
Anon.
"Who is next?"
The next will be whatever religion attempts thru force of arms to make the world do as it says.
No one gives a rat's a$$ how anyone else goes about their 'religion' as long as they leave the rest of us alone. There have been no running wars for 1400yrs to convert the world to a particular religion,EXCEPT for islam's war.
Anon. is running the danger of lumping all religions together as morally equivalent.
islam is the problem.
here is my answer to Islam in the US anyway, posted back in Feb 2007 -
http://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com/2007/02/proposed-constitutional-amendment.html
Here is the money quote -
"Article III
Immediately upon passage of this Amendment all Mosques, schools and Muslim places of worship and religious training are to be closed, converted to other uses, or destroyed. Proceeds from sales of such properties may be distributed to congregations of said places but full disclosure of all proceeds shall be made to an appropriate agency as determined by Congress. No compensation is to be offered by Federal or State agencies for losses on such properties however Federal funding is to be available for the demolishing of said structures if other disposition cannot be made."
but read it all.
Scott in Phx, AZ
The problem is:
Human Nature.
The authors murderous desires proves this point.
Who’s to say that if her murderous desires are fulfilled that she will have had enough?
WWalker
This can't be said enough. I'm continually amazed at the willful ignorance with regard to islam.
Death to islam.
Jon III
The Left has faith in Hitler the man. The Right has faith in Hitler in the sky. The Greens have faith in Hitler in the ground. Religious libertarians are cryptofascists, because ultimately they will obey the sky-Hitler they imagine they hear over the non-aggression principle.
The environment we find ourselves in comes with laws, such as gravity, but they are enforced uniformly upon everything. There is no evidence to suggest the universe takes a special interest in the human species of hairless ape.
Liberty is not going to come from religious people -- they don't want it, they don't believe in it, it scares them. What liberty we do have was built by "deists", which is what athiests called themselves back then to avoid getting burned at the stake.
Excuse me?
"Islam is a non-problem, and can simply be ignored."
Reality check. FAIL.
Islam is NOT going to ignore you, therefor you cannot ignore Islam.
Until one correctly identifies the problem, no solution can be offered.
The problem is Islam, more specifically - Islams' goal of subjegating the world to a barbaric tribal way of life from the 7th century as expounded by an epileptic pedophile who thought up a "religion" to justify his every lust for child-rape, theft, murder, and conquest.
Islam wants you converted to Islam, a slave to Islam, or DEAD.
And it doesn't matter whether you are a Jew, Christian, an atheist, or even a Druid. You aren't Muslim so your life has no value to Islam and can be disposed of in whatever manner the Caliph sees fit. You don't get a say in the matter.
Try to ignore that and see where it gets you.
Understand? Now you can decide the course of action you want to take.
Scott in Phx, AZ
You have taken the time to read the fatwas against us haven't you? The problem is not Islam. The problem is the intervention of our government in the sovereign affairs of other countries. Muslims don't hate Americans because we're not Muslims or because we're rich or because we're free. Muslims hate our government for sticking it's nose into their business, killing their people and generally effecting their version of life, liberty and happiness. The "right answer" is let sovereign nations alone. If John, Bobby and Jennifer don't like Islam, they're free to raise funds and contract with Xe to put the beat down one or more "offending" countries. But our government must keep it's nose out of other countries business. I am in no way sympathetic to the teachings of Islam, but to call it the problem is ignorant.
We are currently wading so deeply in the filth of the pigpen that there is really no "The" problem.
This problem feeds that one, which is in turn exacerbated by the other one, which wouldn't exist in the first place without the first one. On and on.
I see a lot of points made here, many of them on both sides are valid, IMO.
It's a screwed up world, to be sure.
Any religion spreading itself through force of arms is false. It becomes a team building and motivational tool rather than a true religion.
Any "god" requiring the violence, subjugation, and abuse as found in islam is worthy of scorn, not worship. Any "god". I will spit in his face before he casts me into hell.
Resist.
AP
Let's look at this from another angle. Two days ago we were asking ourselves how we were going to get enough people together to fix this cancerous gov't. No really much input on that one.
So not having resolved that issue, we now decide we should take on the empire of Islam. Look, I don't like them either, their ideology really sucks. But how exactly will we go about exterminating Islam anyway? Nukes? Conventional small arms aren't adequate enough. Invent a new kool-aid for Muslims only, then their brain cells change over to some other kinder religion? So unless we nuke this planet into the stone age, we never accomplished anything anyway. Like cockroaches, there will always be a few left over. Yeah, we're really gonna make some progress with this idea.
0321
Wars on vegetables (drugs), tactics (terror), and now ideas (religion). How absurd! You can't ever win such a war. But that's probably the point.
I know many people who practice Islam, and it is a spiritual PRACTICE, not just a belief system, and a very effective spiritual practice at that. None of them are violent. None would ever write such a hateful screed.
There are certainly people who claim to practice Islam who use a literal interpretation of their religious texts as an excuse for violence. The Bible can also be used as such an excuse. And during the Crusades, it was. Should we have wiped out Christianity then? Of course not.
It doesn't matter which belief you use to justify violence. If you initiate violence, you are a criminal. A cop who uses his belief in "the law" to justify kidnapping (arresting) someone who harmed nobody is a criminal. Wiping out a billion souls, most of whom you have never met and know nothing about, other than that they practice Islam, would make you a criminal beyond compare. Beelzebub himself would be ashamed.
Scott in Phoenix said,
"Islam is a non-problem, and can simply be ignored." [quoted by him, from another poster]
Reality check. FAIL.
He also said, "Islam wants you converted to Islam, a slave to Islam, or DEAD."
Both of his statements are true. Those who claim that Islam just wants to be left alone to its own devices is ignorant of both Islam as a religion and Islam's history. Remember "Charles Martel defeated the Moors at Tours?" Tours is in France, not exactly right next to the deserts of Arabia. Vienna was under siege as recently as 1683 by the Turks...the MOSLEM Turks. The same Moslem Turks fought by Vlad Tepes so brutally - because that was viewed as the only way to beat them, and clearly sitting down and discussing the relative merits of the 2 religions didn't work. Islam literally means "submission," and that is what they practice where they are permitted to do so. Under Islam, you either convert, move away (quickly, before they catch you) or die when they get sufficient numbers in your area.
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." -Jeff Cooper
Note that being "unarmed" can mean 2 things: being literally without arms (i.e. firearms) OR it can also mean that you are not mentally or emotionally armed for a fight...in which case it doesn't matter how many guns, missiles, aircraft, ships or nukes you have, YOU WILL NOT OVERCOME EVIL. Running away, or otherwise ignoring the problem of Islam, is no solution except a very temporary one for those minds that cannot accept reality. Well, guess what: If any particular people choose to be ignorant of Islam and its goals, that's fine, they're free to make their choices and live (or not, as the case may be) with the consequences. Just don't make me live with your choices or your lack of courage to face facts.
Islam gives you 3 choices when they are in power and 3 only, convert, submit(slave), or die. They will not ignore you, they will not leave you alone. That's what the quran demands. Part of the problem is our meddling certainly but if we didn't it would not change their mission of conversion and control or death to infidels.
The problem is islam. From the beginning, islam declared war against all who did not embrace the death cult. Again, From The Beginning- dar al islam vs dar al harb - islam against the world.
Clearly, to anyone paying attention islam Is Not The Religion Of Peace. That is evident in the internecine warfare practiced for centuries, evident in the Shia/Sunni division, evident in the rantings of moomed.
It is the goal of muslims, and islam itself to install the 12th imam through world wide chaos and war. With that in mind, and the recognition that obama is a muslim by birth, writings, practices and beliefs the attack on Libya begins to make sense from a muslim perspective. The muslims in other countries will see this as a "crusade" and become enraged. Slightly western leaning muslim administrations will be overthrown in favor of far more "active" theocratic versions. Obama is setting the stage for chaos, by plan.
http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-65981-2.html
Some war porn for the war monkey............................
or nice Christian lady?
Wow, that is one of the most ignorant things I have read in a very long time.
Kinda sad to see the posts that think islam is not the problem.
The heady and high-minded "live and let live" philosophy sounds real good until you realize too late that islam wants to rule the world under a caliphate and infidels get to convert, submit or die.
I fail to see how the civilized world defending itself makes us worse than islam.
Hey DOUG:
Willful ignorance, at best, or
Unmitigated horseshit with an agenda at worst.
Jon III
I agree with Anon at 2:31. Human nature.
It's not moral to kill someone who believes torture is moral. However, there shouldn't be any hesitation at putting a bullet through the head of anyone engaging in the act of torture.
One cannot morally kill someone because they believe an immoral idea. One may kill someone for trying to actualize the immoral idea, when that idea poses grave and immediate harm to the life, liberty or property of others.
This woman supports mass murder, pure and simple. Her immoral idea is irreconcilable with Christianity.
@Brass at 12:49
I do not support mass murder. I support just war in order to LIBERATE those trapped inside of islam. I stated that repeatedly in my essay. Hence the analogy to Nazism. Did we exterminate every German in winning WWII? No, nor was that ever the objective. The extermination is not of the people, the extermination is of the islamic totalitarian political system. Will there be casualties on both sides? Yes. Will it be worth it? Yes. Just as our fallen dead in WWII were worth it. Some causes are worth dying for. I would gladly fight and die in a campaign to free all future generations of the scourge of islam. Show me where to muster, and who my CO is and I'm out the door right now.
Outstanding anology by Ann Barnhart. I agree with her 110%. We need to get on with it and bring peace to the world, it can be done, but only without islam. Thank you Ann for standing up to be counted, a island of sanity in a sea of turmoil.
I'm an Orthodox Christian, so some of what I'm about to say might sound slightly different to Western ears...
The Church instituted by Jesus Christ in 33 AD has been mostly under the Muslim yoke since the 700s, with Constantinople, greatest city in Europe and center of Christianity, falling in 1453. This is tragic indeed, but it can also serve as an object lesson: Our Master's kingdom is not of this world, and neither are His weapons.
It is good that Westerners see Islam as the scourge it is. But it is the height of hubris-- perhaps even idolatrous-- to assume that Islam can be defeated using guns and tanks and missiles. Is there self-defense? Absolutely, and this is why the Byzantines were justified in fighting the Turks, the Russians the Chechens, etc.
(There is also the fact that when the United States intervenes in the Middle East, Christians in those places suffer for it, but I will leave that in your lap for a bit.)
But these are only delaying actions, and the only way Islam will be defeated is when our Savior, who defeated death by death and triumphs in confounding the powers of this world with weapons unseen, moves His holy Church to stand among the infidels and casts down the demonic powers that fuel Islam by the blood of His servants and the witness of their martyrdoms.
The body of Christ was made to suffer, and it is through that suffering that she defeats her enemies in this world. Not through warfare.
Focus on the planks in your eye-- Obama, collectivism, etc.-- before you seek to remove the Islamic mote from the Middle East's eye.
None of them are violent.
They don't have to be. Anyone with a passing knowledge of the Koran knows that nonviolence is acceptable if 1) the Muslims are still a minority in their host country, or 2) they are logistically or spiritually supporting jihad. He who supports a raider is himself a raider.
If your Muslim buddies don't support jihad, they are apostates. It's that simple. Also keep in mind that Muslims are authorized to lie to infidels (e.g. you) by the practice of taqiyya.
There are certainly people who claim to practice Islam who use a literal interpretation of their religious texts as an excuse for violence. The Bible can also be used as such an excuse. And during the Crusades, it was.
It's telling that the equivocation crowd has to reach back nine centuries for an example of violent Christians. For one thing, Christianity is one of the foundation stones of Western civilization, whether the religion-haters like it or not. You live in a country that was enormously influenced by Christianity (I say this as a non-Christian). For another, Christians are not currently cutting people's heads off, slicing the nose and ears from young girls for not wearing a veil, or detonating nail bombs in marketplaces. The Muslims are doing these things, almost daily. And when they immigrate to the West, they bring their depraved culture with them.
The front line is not Iraq or Afghanistan or Libya. It's the customs section at LAX and La Guardia. The jihad on American soil has already begun.
Wow, she's written the equivalent of Mien Kampf.
After the unpayable national debt is responded to with high inflation, as in Weimar Germany, I wonder if 95% of voters will elect her to be the head of both the executive and legislative branches, like Germans did for Hitler in Weimar Germany? Wouldn't you rather have Barnhardt for a US president than Palin? 50 more IQ points gives her the horsepower to make the really big mistakes. Barnhardt vs. Hillary in 2012. You can have nationalism and war with your socialism, or socialism with your nationalism and war. Liberty is not on the ticket. Liberty is never on the ticket. That's the point of the ticket.
"Islam is NOT going to ignore you, therefor you cannot ignore Islam."
The solution to defense is liberty. If the US government wasn't infringing RKBA, then big weapons would be cheap and common enough to give every invader pause -- even the viable ones that have industrialized manufacturing economies.
St. Clair-
Your islamic 'friends' are just waiting to see how things go. Kinda like people who aren't looters until they get the chance to loot. 'Peaceful' muslims will side w/violent islam when islam gets the upper hand. Bet on it. They'll happily slit your throat when the time is right.
islam is a death cult and its god is only satiated w/the blood of infidels. In fact the only way to be assured of 'heaven' as a muslim is to jihad an infidel/Jew.
aughtsix,
darn right I have an agenda: freedom. Freedom to do whatever the devil I please as long as it doesn't prevent others from doing likewise. In order to obtain freedom for myself, everyone else has to have the same freedom.
When the boogey-man du jour invades the U.S. to expunge our freedom, I'll be by your side, knocking them down. Until then, our government needs to keeps it's hypocritical nose out of the sovereign affairs of other nations. And, while they're at it, keep out of the sovereign affairs of individuals as well.
"The" answer is freedom for all.
What's your agenda?
One tragic fact is plain to see: There are too many Americans who simply fear Muslims more than they love or understand freedom. – William Norman Grigg
Oh so tragically true, as the frenzy of hate and ignorance here proves.
WWalker
What if Islam does not want to be left alone, but instead by definition is expansionist via the sword?
What then, my libertarian friends?
Barnhardt writes:
"The solution is nothing less than the complete extermination of the muslim political system in order to save the people inside of it."
You cannot eliminate the Muslim political system to save the people within, because unlike your Nazi Germany analogy, there is no separation of church and state in Islam. It is in their doctrine, and you would have to attempt to purge them of their culture, language, and traditions as the US attempted to do so with the native Indians, the Brits with the Irish, and the Soviets with their satellite nations. Good luck with that.
Sooner or later, the moderate Islamic people who survive such a "liberation" war will produce orthodox offspring who will clamor again for a Islamic state, much like the Jews who pined for the return of Solomon kingdom while ruled by the Roman Empire. What follows will either be continued occupation, and/or out and out genocide as a unintended consequence as a result of your so-called limited "extermination" war to dismantle the Islamic government.
You cannot prevent the common human trait of reactionary revenge by the ordinary Islam citizen, as their wives, children, relatives, and friends are killed by collateral damage in the "extermination" crusade war you wage to save them from their own political government.
Revenge trumps ideology, and usually drives otherwise moderate and peaceful people to embrace the very radicalism you seek to exterminate.
I find it amusing that you would declare such a war on one of the largest religions in the war--over a billion people that are thoroughly integrated among us through out the world. Such a war would have as much success as the French holding Algeria, or us winning in Vietnam. It would give rise to a even worse police state and martial law to apprehend all Muslim suspects that live among us, and would lead to the further loss of the personal freedoms and liberties you seek to save from Islamic influence.
R. Shirtz
The problem isn't Islam, exactly - it's the Arab strains of it. Until relatively recently, the Islamic people in SE Asia and Sub-saharan Africa were pretty much calm on the religious front. They were not aggressive jihadi types, at least not in the main.
SamenoKami appears to believe he can read the minds and delve the depths of the souls of my Islamic friends, without having met a single one of them. Amazing. And chilling.
Islam is not a threat. Some people who claim to believe in Islam are a threat. So are some Christians. So are many who believe in "the law".
Islam is an idea, a meme, a mental concept. As such, it cannot be eliminated short of eradicating or re-educating every single person who believes in it. There are over a billion Muslims on the planet today. You will fail. If you try, you are a monster.
If someone attempts to hurt people I care about, other than in self defense, I don't care what religion they claim to follow, or what fancy uniform, funny hat, and shiny badge they're wearing at the time. I'll stop them, using lethal force if necessary. That most definitely includes people posting in this thread who appear to want to harm my Muslim friends.
“What if Islam does not want to be left alone, but instead by definition is expansionist via the sword?
What then, my libertarian friends?”
Personal responsibility. Self defense.
I’ve said it before, and I will say it again.............and Anonymous @ 4:28 said it clearly.
Who is restricting our right to keep and bear arms for proper self defense?
Who is stealing our wealth at and ever increasing rate?
Who is depriving massive numbers of non violent individuals of their liberty via imprisonment?
And the list goes on and on.
Not Islam..............................not any religion....................or “terrorist”...............
GOVERNMENT. Fed, State, local, global!
And the monkey majority of Americans demand it, wether it be the welfare monkey or the war monkey.
Now what was the problem again?
WWalker
Concerned American,
"What if Islam does not want to be left alone, but instead by definition is expansionist via the sword?
What then, my libertarian friends?"
Then we light them up. Libertarianism isn't pacifism, it's non-aggressive. There's a difference.
Doug:
At what fact set is the "light 'em up" threshold satisfied?
W3:
Get it re monster government. What if supporting expansionist Islam is part of monster government's toolset?
Let me be clear: we need to get the eff out of Islamia and get home.
But that's not because haji is pacific.
It's because we're broke, and we need to conserve resources for the fights ahead.
St. Clair, I can't read minds but I can read the 'holy' texts of islam. Try it. You'll see.
Death and destruction of the infidel is the running theme.
(Before you spout back "teh Bible says yada yada" make sure it's in the New Testament.)
Keep this thread in mind in the years to come. Don't yell at those of us who tried to warn you about islam when the muslims turn out to be just like we said.
Concerned American,
"At what fact set is the "light 'em up" threshold satisfied?"
When they cease their aggression.
CA writes: "What if Islam does not want to be left alone, but instead by definition is expansionist via the sword?
What then, my libertarian friends?"
Don't confuse "libertarian" with "pacifist", and "war of colonial aggression" with "defensive war of home and hearth". These are straw men.
CA writes: "At what fact set is the "light 'em up" threshold satisfied?"
The threshold is an objectively unmistakable initiation of a shooting war. Are they positioning their ships offshore to launch the cruise missile attack? Is the British army marching to confiscate your militia's cache of supplies? These distinctions are not subtle. Traditional acts of war include blockading a harbor and laying a city to siege. This is also called "sanctions", "tariffs" when at the levels used against the American South's exports just before the civil war, "oil for food", and perhaps "no fly zone". Other acts of war include confiscating all the weapons, all the gold, all the money, and pretty much everything the Nazis did to the Jews. Again, these distinctions are not subtle.
In order to obtain freedom for myself, everyone else has to have the same freedom.
So, like anarchy, libertarianism only works with 100% participation.
One tragic fact is plain to see: There are too many Americans who simply fear Muslims more than they love or understand freedom. – William Norman Grigg
So much for the much-bandied Christian Anarchist and his loyal pet. To the fool Grigg, the government is the first, last, and only purveyor of evil. Remove government and the world will immediately revert to peace. On Islam, Grigg is lockstep with an establishment he claims to despise: the individual is not authorized to be wary of Islam, even if he has read the Koran and observed Muslim behavior. No, he is a despicable fear-monger who is itching to make war on people darker in complexion than himself. If only he would embrace anarchism he would see that Muslims are individuals just like we are, who want the same things we do and is free to make the same decisions.
Unfortunately, these particular individuals are making the decision to make war on infidels over and over again.
Revenge trumps ideology, and usually drives otherwise moderate and peaceful people to embrace the very radicalism you seek to exterminate.
Except in most cases it's not revenge:
It was written in their Qu'ran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every Muslim who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise.
--Sidi Haji Abdrahaman, 1785
SamenoKami appears to believe he can read the minds and delve the depths of the souls of my Islamic friends, without having met a single one of them. Amazing. And chilling.
I guess being a libertarian means rejecting statistical probabilities and profiling.
And the monkey majority of Americans demand it, wether it be the welfare monkey or the war monkey.
That explains why we're constantly chided by the same government to not fear is Islam, and that the Muslims we're fighting are extremists who have hijacked a peaceful religion. And when a mujahid screams "Allahu Akbar" before opening fire on unarmed federal soldiers, he's an isolated nutcase and nothing to do with the Great Religion.
For being ostensibly anti-government, ya'll sure do share a lot of the same philosophy.
SamenoKami,
I'm not arguing that there are plenty of Muslims who believe literally in the "kill the infidels" of their religious texts. Unlike you, however, I believe that lots of people are able to ignore or overcome the brain-washing of their religion. Hey, I got over believing the Constitution would preserve my liberty. With lots of help from watching the crooks who promised to preserve and defend it, and then did the opposite.
I read a lot of the Bible once. Didn't have much to offer. Haven't read the Koran, other than the beginning, which I recited during 5-times prayer for a couple of years, until I realized that I wasn't ready for the potency of that practice. La ilaha ilallah has remained useful, however.
Oh, no he ARE one!
Not really, I use what works and ignore the rest. I believe that makes me WORSE than an infidel to the true believers.
Ann Barnhardt,
I don't think you understand how the State and Mahomettanism are intrinsically linked. You cannot have Mahomettanism without a Mahomettan state. It is a political cult, as others have correctly pointed out. Just as you can't have true Christianity without belief in the Resurrection, you can't have true Mahomettanism without a Mohamettan State. The destruction of Mahomettanism can only come in one of two ways: A) the conversion of every Mahomettan, or B) the death of every Mahomettan.
Only A is the moral course.
All in favor of being free to do as you please say, "Aye."
Witchwood,
I bet I get 100% participation.
I believe the war is coming sooner than later. Look at the current unrest in the middle east now, we're now witnessing Anderson Coopers version of a "Democratic Revolution" in Egypt as we watch the Muslim Brotherhood rise to power with the backing of the Egyptian Army. The vote worked well to keep article 2 of their constitution in place. Libya, Syria, Yemen, Bahrain, Jorden? Liberals would have you believe some students just woke up from a power nap and decided to start a "democratic revolution" so we have to support them. I see it as the "eastern front", with the stealth jihad being fought right now on the western front "America".
I DO believe the war has already started and we need to start fighting back and quickly or life is over as we know it.
I just gotta ask. Fighting back means what?
Alan:
Opposing the spread of Islam on this continent on all fronts by any means necessary.
Ask the folks in Michigan about Hamtramck.
Or just wait....
Curtis nailed it here.
Patrick asks:
CA...
.....Are you a adamant regarding the spread of talmudic "judaism"?
One mistake, the koran was not written by Mohameden, he was illiterate. The koran was memorized by him and his followers. The actual writing took place after the death of Mohameden.
http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/ISLAM/QURAN.HTM
Keep up the good work!
Not trying to take away from Ann's words.
Islam claims 1.4 bil members Globally, GAWD love that word! At any rate if their claimed numbers have the same credibility as most other organized religions do, that means about 20%, (number pulled from ass, like most), are actually knowledgeable about the theology and sources of such, religion. It's entirely possible that 1/3rd belong to some if not several Christian counts as well.
Lets play some numbers games. 20% that mean there are less then 300k that actually have any real knowledge of what the religion is about. Lets say they have a 10% iman count, which seems to be like a priest or pastor to the christian world. So we have around 28k that should really know the sect. 1.4 billion 29k actually understand WTF it's about. Enough? Possibly. Enough to claim 1.4 mill armed persons to wage a battle? I but chuckle, especially since about half of them are already half christian. And remember they are still hungry.
Can the remaining numbers cause problems and challenges to the world. The demonstrated actions set in stone historical record. They can. When we go into their lands with arms, such generally only feeds a frenzy. Though the actual numbers are small, they are widely scattered and influence many into action. Best if they can't read, well for them.
I but wonder why any of our recent presidents, beginning with the peanut farmer did not ring up Tehran and ask them if they desired life? Because we can drill through sand and glass in less than a year after a fission event. But in 79 that might have been a bit early for such. But in 89 would have been timing perfect!
2009 when the riots in the streets of Tehran erupted, would have been perfect timing to broadcast to those that cared, to depart the city as a different current solution would be delivered on such and such. Of course Ahmadinejad would have also departed, but we can target, usually, such items of interest and insure he can't find a working TV station. With the city gone, well....... Japan in 45 repeat.
I have had the pleasure of actually knowing a few folks from the ME. Some I'd prefer seeing being buried, or would only allow them to help me move, others I consider a true friend. Yes one I would not hesitate calling to say move a body.
See when folks choose to make their prey populaces that can't understand anything besides what is told to them, well they tend to believe what is told to them. None of our so called reasonable standards exist. But will be used for the count. Exploitation is the single word I know of to explain the practice. Since the Christian and the islam guys are in the house at different times, who is to know. The family gets some food, something they can't read, and more food.... fark. Like in the Balkans for hundreds of years.... I say ok I get to eat, oh and to LIVE. OK! You good person and know, I join.
I feel the need to spend a bit more time with the Balkans. Why? Well WWI began there and such caused a few dead people not to mention was nothing but a launching pad for WWII! A bunch of folks gave it all for that TOTAL event. Yes a many were jewish, but out of 54 million killed, only 6 million were jews. The figures come from the jews. BTW I'm not anti israel at all, but I'm not one that believes very much from any source that can't be verified. (such had caused me challenges since I was small so don't bother becoming full of yourself or the figures you have been told).
I think they should have decimated some areas during their latest conflict which the world cut way short. (I know I'll still be misunderstood). BFD
The Balkans is a region that was taken over by groups of differing religious beliefs for hundreds of years, first one then the other and back and forth. Christian, muslim, and another.. time after time after time. It almost became second nature to herald the new bunch and detest the out going bunch, only to reverse when fortunes did the same. See the choice between life and death is VERY CLEAR to anybody! Vote red, live, vote blue, die! See how easy it is to change your basic beliefs? Those things that have been taught to you from a small child and KNOW to be true?
They talk about no atheists in foxholes, believe me when I say there are a count of zero at the muzzle of a gun! Change from christ to mohamed? EASY! Does not shake your new belief to have just watched 12 of your friends deny and die either. Builds strong support for your new belief. The 12, that was the less than 1% that swore they would never deny christ! Remember that tale?
When the UN/US got involved in the hostilities in the Balkans, who was it it we protected? Muslims. Not the people that actually cared for and did something for themselves and their lands. We bailed out the Muslims.
That was followed up by the US supplying arms to the muhajadeen of Afghanistan who again were? Muslim radicals, the result was kinda mixed for the USA. We did help the USSR go broke, but we also enabled the Taliban to take over control of the nation. Which led to an entire country where terrorists had freedom to do as they pleased. For some reason we were willing to spend a billion a year or more, to kick out the Russians, but could not come with a quarter the help stabilize the country afterwards.
There in reality are not that many Muslims that are openly and knowingly attempting to cause problems for commerce, read allowing dictators to sell their oil and hand out droplets to the citizens. Kuwait and Libya BTW, give much back to the citizens. They are not the only ones either. Gadffy duck might be as asshole to the world, but he did not make life too difficult for his own. Sans the MB and AlQuiada which just desired the money and power and a place to base operations. (that friendly non friend, is who we are bombing today). Our sworn enemy, those that WILL take our head off if ever provided the opportunity to do so is the party we are helping. Using YOUR tax dollars, about a billion so far.
I see many elements in the first option of quarantine that could in fact work and do so fairly quickly.
All Muslim immigration could be halted; deportation could be employed far more rigorously; because Islam isn't a religion in the sense that others are, it could become illegal to construct mosques which have proven to be highly political bases of Islamic supremicism that would bring down the host state through stealth and terror.
If left alone, denied aid or trade, Islam would implode quiet rapidly
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