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Saturday, January 8, 2011

It Only Took About 70 Years

Tam links to Joe Huffman regarding Ultimak's latest.

Me likey beaucoup, especially the co-witness red dot shown below.

Many kudos to Ultimak, since the flavor previously available via CMP is no more.


Blogger Ry Jones said...

It's actually Lyle, owner of UltiMAK, that posted it.

January 9, 2011 at 12:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I sent the link to a few of the guys I shoot CMP matches with. Got a one word reply



January 9, 2011 at 2:16 AM  
Blogger Dennis308 said...

"Blasphemy" or not I like it. I would not do it myself,as I don't yet have a Garand but I already have a Springfield-Scout and the Scout Forward mount on a Standard Rifle.So it would be repititious of me to set up a Garand in a similar fashion. Maybe something to think about.


January 9, 2011 at 3:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a T26 replica ("Tanker" if you insist) in .308 that now sports a 2.75x Burris on a Fulton Armory "Super Scout" handguard. A T-37 style flash suppressor completes the arrangement.

I bought the rifle about 20 years ago from a reputable gunsmith who was rebarreling shot-out Korean reimports. He made a few "Tankers" in '06 and I requested one in .308.

It is a fine, fine rifle. Accurate to a fault and reliable, it is pleasure to carry and shoot. I'd gladly crawl over a pile of Springer SOCOMs to get to one.

January 9, 2011 at 3:36 AM  
Blogger Selous Scout said...

Fulton Armory has offered a scout mount for several years now.


January 9, 2011 at 3:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fulton Armory has been offering one of these mounts for a while now. I have one and it's outstanding. Cheaper as well.


It is blasphemy, but it is good.

January 9, 2011 at 3:56 AM  
Anonymous GardenSERF said...

Very cool for the 21st Century. I think grandpa would've liked the Aimpoint for those winter nights during the Bulge.

I recently bought and used one on my AK 5.56. I don't see why this version has to be so much more expensive.

If my G3 copy/HK mount/30mm Stanag rings/Aimpoint project doesn't work out quite right, my CMP might get the upgrade instead...

January 9, 2011 at 3:56 AM  
Blogger Alvie D. Zane said...

Is this more blasphemous than a traditional Garand scope mount?

Two major advantages for scout mount.

1) You don't have to give up your rear sight. So the iron is still ready if the optics aren't.

2) You can still shoot with either hand. With the traditional mount you'd be required to shoot right handed to use the optics, no?

Ultimak ~ $200.
Fulton's scout ~$150.
CMP (when they still offered it) was just over $100.

Not sure why CMP quit offering this, nor why it's so costly.

January 9, 2011 at 2:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bubba will not rest until all is fornicated.
Useful, yes, but outside of the onerous laws of Canada, unneded. As seeing how the 30-06 has gone way up in price from CMP and black tip is gone baby gone.

January 9, 2011 at 7:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about warping due to heat? I have heard that the Springfield Armory SOCOM scout rail had a problem with that, which caused the sight picture to shift.

January 9, 2011 at 11:47 PM  
Blogger Pat H. said...

I like this type of mount. All the advantages of a red dot, with no downside other than money.

Brownell's stocks them, nice if you have a armorer's discount with them.

The M-14 version: http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=23465/Product/M14_M1A_M8_FORWARD_OPTIC_MOUNT

January 9, 2011 at 11:50 PM  
Blogger Atlas Shrug said...

The CMP and Fulton mounts are merely the Amega Ranges mount found here:


(FWIW they seem to just call themselves "Amega" now and have dropped the "Ranges" part.)

I've had several for years, use them and love them. They make a Garand come alive as a modern battle rifle.

I also have the UltiMAK M1 Carbine mount and it is excellent.

It appears that the new UltiMAK Garand mount has a lower mounting rail than the Amega product. Its construction appears to be similar to the M1 Carbine, M14 and other samples I have observed, so I am not surprised that it is as low as possible, as that seems to be an UltiMAK trait - good for them!

When time, funds, and project sequencing allow, I will obtain one and see if it is a significant improvement over the Amega mount. If one can co-witness effectively, then I'm sure it will be worth the cost difference.

I'll not be getting rid of the Amega mounts that I have, though. One great thing about them is that you can mount small angled side rails and then have flashlight mount points. This is not a small thing at all and is something to be considered when doing a cost benefit analysis and weighing your options.

(For those that poo-poo the Garand for the 8 round en blocs, IMHO you are missing the boat. I for one used to be that way, but after field use I no longer shoot the M14 pattern gun, but DO shoot the Garands.)

Keep your powder dry,

Atlas Shrug

January 10, 2011 at 1:01 AM  
Blogger Dennis308 said...

Anon 23:47
No warping yet.I only have a couple hundred rounds through it but I don't expect it. The mount is made of aluminum and mounted through the upper Stock and onto the Barrel.


January 10, 2011 at 5:22 AM  

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