Tribes are also racial. I can just see the comments coming from that. Me, I've been crapped on so many times about it, I don't ask questions anymore. Until there is a general consensus, not a politically correct diatribe, that tribalism is racial, you're never going to get anywhere discussing it. But it's ok. Whites are bent on self-destruction anyway.
Regarding the Afghans, they did defeat the British on occasion, but also lost badly several times (the Tirah campaing, for example). And they have *never* faced the full might of a major power - their wars have always been small ones.
Tribes also have critical weaknesses - lack of strategic organization is a big one. Yes, a tribe can win a fight against an organized foe (Little Big Horn, Isandlhwana), but they very rarely win extended campaigns. Their only long term hope is that the organized power decides to go elsewhere. If, however, the power is looking to play for keeps, the tribes usually lose.
Tribes cannot sustain combat for very long. If a tribe loses a few tens of men, it has taken a serious wound. An organized power can lose millions and keep right on fighting. Also - tribes eventually *have* to stop fighting to farm/hunt/etc. Organized powers don't - they have other people to do that for them.
Tribes have been around forever because they are effective. They aren't invincible, though.
Let's all look forward, er, backward to shrunken heads, shamanism, cannibalism, human sacrifice, living in mud huts.
Forget about individual sovereignty and dignity.
That's just against human nature after all, an aberration, and certainly not a result of the evolution of western political thought, philosophy and religion.
How about the tribe which believes in Liberty?
Think we can stop squabbling long enough to defeat the forces of regression and collectivism, to survive and reestablish Liberty and human dignity as the highest political and economic principles we know them to be?
In DC: Muslims and U.S. socialists to Israel: "Born by the sword, you shall die by the sword." No, it was a UN resolution in 1947. But whatever. Israel is sort of socialist itself, but much less so than the 99% of the Middle East which surrounds it on three sides. I guess that's part of the problem, plus that Muslim "Kill all Jews" thing. I used to have a problem with that, before Jews sent their children against Palestinians with suicide bombs. Oh, wait.
How did the UN enforce the immigration of the Jews? Or better yet, how did the Jews enforce their own immigration, with the approbation of the UN? By violence. The sword.
That's like saying, "Taxation is achieved by some words on a piece of paper."
Very interesting.
ReplyDeleteTribes are also racial. I can just see the comments coming from that. Me, I've been crapped on so many times about it, I don't ask questions anymore. Until there is a general consensus, not a politically correct diatribe, that tribalism is racial, you're never going to get anywhere discussing it. But it's ok. Whites are bent on self-destruction anyway.
ReplyDeleteLongcore overstates a few things about tribes:
ReplyDeleteRegarding the Afghans, they did defeat the British on occasion, but also lost badly several times (the Tirah campaing, for example). And they have *never* faced the full might of a major power - their wars have always been small ones.
Tribes also have critical weaknesses - lack of strategic organization is a big one. Yes, a tribe can win a fight against an organized foe (Little Big Horn, Isandlhwana), but they very rarely win extended campaigns. Their only long term hope is that the organized power decides to go elsewhere. If, however, the power is looking to play for keeps, the tribes usually lose.
Tribes cannot sustain combat for very long. If a tribe loses a few tens of men, it has taken a serious wound. An organized power can lose millions and keep right on fighting. Also - tribes eventually *have* to stop fighting to farm/hunt/etc. Organized powers don't - they have other people to do that for them.
Tribes have been around forever because they are effective. They aren't invincible, though.
Oh, good, tribalism as the future...
ReplyDeleteLet's all look forward, er, backward to shrunken heads, shamanism, cannibalism, human sacrifice, living in mud huts.
Forget about individual sovereignty and dignity.
That's just against human nature after all, an aberration, and certainly not a result of the evolution of western political thought, philosophy and religion.
How about the tribe which believes in Liberty?
Think we can stop squabbling long enough to defeat the forces of regression and collectivism, to survive and reestablish Liberty and human dignity as the highest political and economic principles we know them to be?
The alternative is unacceptable.
Jon III
In DC: Muslims and U.S. socialists to Israel: "Born by the sword, you shall die by the sword."
ReplyDeleteNo, it was a UN resolution in 1947. But whatever.
Israel is sort of socialist itself, but much less so than the 99% of the Middle East which surrounds it on three sides. I guess that's part of the problem, plus that Muslim "Kill all Jews" thing.
I used to have a problem with that, before Jews sent their children against Palestinians with suicide bombs.
Oh, wait.
"No, it was a UN resolution in 1947."
ReplyDeleteHow did the UN enforce the immigration of the Jews? Or better yet, how did the Jews enforce their own immigration, with the approbation of the UN? By violence. The sword.
That's like saying, "Taxation is achieved by some words on a piece of paper."