tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469109905542911409.post6419919463754741397..comments2023-12-23T16:59:19.185+00:00Comments on Western Rifle Shooters Association: Bracken: The CW2 Cube -- Mapping The Meta-Terrain Of Civil War TwoUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469109905542911409.post-35340959864645054382011-01-07T04:42:39.446+00:002011-01-07T04:42:39.446+00:00Check the cube graphic. Points 1 & 2 on the g...Check the cube graphic. Points 1 & 2 on the graph don't match the list. They are inverted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469109905542911409.post-63654856871281798082010-08-15T18:33:47.712+01:002010-08-15T18:33:47.712+01:00Great graph idea. High tensions await only a small...Great graph idea. High tensions await only a small fracturing event and lines of least resistance to decision.<br /><br />Has anyone tried populating the graph? The data is out there, awaiting correlation.ctdonathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03554285472701226461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469109905542911409.post-34140738141102209402010-08-08T06:12:03.254+01:002010-08-08T06:12:03.254+01:00Libertards & CompassionCons are a hoot. This ...Libertards & CompassionCons are a hoot. This guy lays it out for you and you all immediately try to put a SWPL spin on the thing.<br /><br />You guys need to read up on Social Identity Theory; when the shooting starts, and people start self-organizing, it's going to be about race.<br /><br />That's not to say there won't be internecine racial conflicts (e.g., Blue vs. Red or whatever), but that when the top-down diversity pressure ends, and the country is devolving into a civil war, nobody's going to give a shit about diversity or tolerance.<br /><br />Hilarious, the vision of a kumbayah multiculti diverse "group" fighting through the devolution of central power. Complete fantasy, utterly devoid of grounding in reality. Secret: white people are the wheat in the bread of diversity; the fewer white people, the less diversity, because NOBODY BUT WHITE PEOPLE ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO VALUE SOMETHING AS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE AS RACIAL DIVERSITY.<br /><br />But the Libtard reaches even greater heights of stupidity with his "collectivist" potshot. Genius, collectives kick the snot out of individualists. Do armies stop to ask their enemies political particulars and win? No. The guy who takes the libtard "principled" position by not shooting the guy in the enemy uniform ("Lulz, killing a guy over a uniform is soooo collectivist") D-I-E-S.<br /><br />I can just guess how many campaigns Tamerlane would've won with a libtard army.Lover of Moronsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469109905542911409.post-46384893684084879452010-08-05T07:41:46.560+01:002010-08-05T07:41:46.560+01:00Seriously, if things get bad enough for the US to ...Seriously, if things get bad enough for the US to fall apart, the rest of the world is not going to send troops to "help" us. There are several reasons why:<br /><br />1. The rest of the world will be in a similarly bad situation. The leaders in Beijing have ample reason to fear what happens when the peasants get restless... a couple thousand years of ample reason. If the American market ceases to exist, the factories in China will have to lay off millions of workers, who have no safety net to speak of, and they will not be happy... China will have its hands full trying to keep itself from falling apart, and sending a couple million troops to America to "supervise" their real estate holdings will be a little lower on their list of priorities.<br /><br />2. The rest of the world does not have enough air- or sea-lift capacity to invade us, or the national budgets to afford to do so. When the tsunami hit Indonesia who came to the rescue? A US Navy carrier group. Who is paying for and actually doing most of the heavy lifting in Afghanistan? Not the Germans. Not the French. Not even the Brits. <br /><br />3. The UN? Please... without funding from the US, that august organization is bankrupt, and in the aftermath of a collapse of the USA its member states are all going to be dealing with their own economic and political crises closer to home, and will not be able to cooperate in a "rescue operation" even if they are willing. Russia may expand in its natural sphere of influence (the near abroad). Europe is bankrupt and headed down the road toward population decline. Without the US to hold the world system together, the world system will fall apart.<br /><br />4. The crazies in the Middle East and elsewhere will immediately seek to take whatever advantage they can get away with once the world policeman is no longer on the beat. If the US is engulfed in a civil war, we won't be the only ones. What happens if Iran and Israel go at it with nukes? Or India and Pakistan? For one thing, the flow of oil coming out of the Persian Gulf will be cut significantly, and the whole world economy will suddenly grind to a halt. Even a limited nuclear war between, say, India and Pakistan would result in a significant nuclear winter, leading to massive crop failures and worldwide famine.<br /><br />5. What if Global Warming really is real? Eventually sea levels will rise, flooding coastal areas where a majority of the world's population lives, and there will be total freakin' chaos, okay?<br /><br />No, I don't think we have to worry about a UN occupation force coming to "help" us. And even if they did try it, do any of you have any doubt that we couldn't do to them what the insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan have been doing to us for the last couple of years? It literally wouldn't be worth it for them to even try.MisterMoosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14484672208906420595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469109905542911409.post-58900964770000942932010-08-05T05:15:31.755+01:002010-08-05T05:15:31.755+01:00Latino on Black violence has already turned many c...Latino on Black violence has already turned many cities into war zones and in NY the "hate crimes" perpetrated against some Hispanic immigrants recently were done by Black attackers. Within the Latino group ethnic divisions already fuel violence (Mexicans are universally reviled by other Spanish ethnic gangs)so how does that play out? I may be mistaken but you're assuming that Blacks would side with Hispanics before Whites but among the gangs it's completely the other way, with the Mexican Mafia allied with The Aryan Brotherhood gangs in prison and that alliance being maintianed outside of prison, while Predominately Black 'Folk nation" gangs have become more accepting of White and Latinos gangs willing to work wit them.<br /><br />As a Bi-racial kid growing up in the 70s in all Black area I concur that being a minority is not where you want to be, and that's when there's some stability. But do you think that in areas where Black gangs are losing to Latinos (LA comes to mind) that the allaince will more likely come down around "sets" than race, with gangs associated with the Aryan Brotherhood (1%ers for example) siding with Mexican gangs while Black gangs side with White radicals for mutual protection against a larger enemy?Rob Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15291030263595632767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469109905542911409.post-72938600886355419302010-08-05T03:52:35.553+01:002010-08-05T03:52:35.553+01:00for your thoughtcrime you will shortly be arrested...for your thoughtcrime you will shortly be arrested<br />those of u who have read this, remember 2+2=5 if you are told it is soAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469109905542911409.post-91357492945177018392010-08-05T01:49:51.333+01:002010-08-05T01:49:51.333+01:00I agree with Defender's sentiments, but not hi...I agree with Defender's sentiments, but not his facts...The suppression of theBonus Expeditionary Force by the US military truly was a black mark in American History. It was the Hoover administration that ordered the attack on a peaceful assembly of veterans of WW1 who, during the Great Depression, wanted to receive the bonuses promised to them for their service:<br />"On 28 July, 1932, Attorney General Mitchell ordered the police evacuation of the Bonus Army veterans. When they resisted the police shot at them, killing two. When told of this, President Hoover ordered the army to effect the evacuation of the Bonus Army from Washington.<br /><br />At 4:45 p.m., commanded by Gen. Douglas MacArthur, the 12th Infantry Regiment, Fort Howard, Maryland, and the 3rd Cavalry Regiment, supported by six battle tanks commanded by Maj. George S. Patton, Fort Myer, Virginia, formed in Pennsylvania Avenue while thousands of civil service employees left work to line the street and watch the U.S. Army attack its own veterans. The Bonus Marchers, believing the display was in their honour, cheered the troops until Maj. Patton ordered the cavalry to charge them—an action which prompted the civil service spectators to yell, "Shame! Shame!"<br /><br />After the cavalry charged the infantry, with fixed bayonets and adamsite gas, entered the camps, evicting veterans, families, and camp followers. The veterans fled across the Anacostia River to their largest camp and President Hoover ordered the assault stopped. However Gen. MacArthur, feeling this exercise was a Communist attempt at overthrowing the U.S. government, ignored the President and ordered a new attack. Hundreds of veterans were injured and several killed—including William Hushka and Eric Carlson. A veteran's wife miscarried. The infant, Bernard Myers, died in the hospital after the incident but reports indicated the death was not caused by the evacuation of the BEF.<br /><br />The Posse Comitatus Act—forbidding civilian police work by the U.S. military—did not apply to Washington, D.C., because it is the federal district directly governed by the U.S. Congress (U.S. Constitution, Article I. Section 8. Clause 17). The exemption was created because of an earlier "Bonus March." In 1781, most of the Continental Army was demobilized without pay. Two years later hundreds of Pennsylvania war veterans marched on Philadelphia, surrounding the State House where Congress was in session, and demanded their pay. The U.S. Congress fled to Princeton, New Jersey, and several weeks later, the U.S. Army expelled the war veterans from the national capital." (Source: Wikipedia)David Hamelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15033904686802276742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469109905542911409.post-30095856368997830992010-08-04T20:16:37.471+01:002010-08-04T20:16:37.471+01:00Rollory
Re: 'Peaceful liberal diversity' ...Rollory<br /><br />Re: 'Peaceful liberal diversity' <br /><br />Not always, but that's usually the way things work out, & it's also interesting that what's usually referred to as 'peace' is preserved by those who are ready to be decidedly UNpeaceful. <br /><br /><br />Hermano Iggy, <br /><br />Don't be too surprised if some of those who come to your aid look like Z.Z. Top's roadies, listen to Lynyrd Skynyrd, & wear Stars & Bars t-shirts. Appearence doesn't always indicate outlook, & that 'redneck trash' in the Confederate battle flag adorned pickups who you've been raised to despise might just be the ones who show up to help you/yours fight off/escape the bipedal vermin who emerge a la post-Katrina N.O. Others should remember that as well. <br /><br /><br />Defender, <br /><br />Have you also mentally prepared yourself/those you care about for the horrors they're quite likely to experience should things fall apart? That aspect is all too often overlooked & is as important as physical prep in surviving catastrophe. <br /><br /><br />Jimmy the Saint, <br /><br />I'm a few hours above you & things don't look all that hunky dory here either, but the advantage I have is that the population density/composition/disposition when combined w/ the topography makes the hell of what the Bay area & the land on the other side of the old Grapevine will become should things get jiggy less likely to occur. It'll be REAL ugly for awhile for sure, but we don't have as many Eloi, Leftists, & regular criminals to deal w/ as you do down there, & we can grow our own food & raise livestock once we don't have to send most of the water to Frisco/L.A. It'd be a good idea to eyeball north of Porterville as a redoubt if you can't bop out entirely from the P.D.R.C. & if it's feasible, consider a mini-copter as a getaway vehicle. <br /><br /><br />Mammoth, <br /><br />Given the stoking of the fires of racial animosity that's been going on for the past 40 years courtesy of the Left generally & outfits like the N.A.A.C.P./Nation of Islam, M.A.L.D.E.F./La Raza, the press, & academia in particular, it's a safe bet that conflict occurring after an economic collapse/against a govt gone bad will, IMO, be presented to those in/outside the U.S. as racial because that'll be the easiest/most effective way to 'manage' info & garner sympathy/support for THEIR side. Note the slant of the coverage about Rhodesia/Zimbabwe & South Africa before/after the communist victories & the way the Rodney King riot, the aftermath of Katrina, & the opposition to illegal immigration was/is portrayed & you'll see how it'll go. <br /><br /><br />kbp/AtlasShrug/Mickey Collins/Anon @ Aug 1 5:42 PM, <br /><br />The scenario posited by Anon @ Aug 3/8:45 PM seems to me to be the likeliest one, but is contingent on a domestic rebellion model that doesn't precipitate a planetary economic collapse & the subsequent paralysis of many of the world's military forces to such an extent that they'd be unable to exploit said collapse. In the event of a revolt, I expect Anon/Aug 3's view to be the one that happens but if it causes a domestic collapse that rapidly spreads worldwide, it wouldn't surprise me to see Ivan taking Alaska/parts of northern Canada (if the ChiComs let them alone) & an exodus from Latin America/the Caribbean to the U.S. which would guarantee involvement of foreign forces still able to exert themselves. Hell, you might even see some Canadian provinces/some American states form a self-defense alliance & the appearence here of a large number of Euros escaping a post-E.U. econo-religious civil war wouldn't shock me either. One thing's for sure, the American 'black community' is in for a VERY rude shock about the level of bigotry against them that resides among non-mixed Latinos, the attitude their non-U.S. 'brothas/sistas' have toward them will also be a jolt. <br /><br /><br />Cassandra (of Troy) <br /><br />* Yahoo's going screwy on me, so if this repeats blame them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469109905542911409.post-40219382601070833582010-08-04T04:00:47.514+01:002010-08-04T04:00:47.514+01:00Every recent civil war has been ended by an outsid...Every recent civil war has been ended by an outside force. Rawanda, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, the list goes on. Anyone who thinks the world will let us devolve into chaos without becoming involved is naive. With the money we owe, especially to China and Japan we are now an investment. With the money flowing from here to Mexico and other countries the UN has a vested interest in keeping us "stabile". As for the "Finns" that is one of my favorite wars to study, you should check out the tank graveyard of "Vukovar" as well. But the Finns were united. Would it be possible to fight a civil war and an invading force? To those who say bring it on.......<br />dulce bellum inexpertisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469109905542911409.post-33699265772728235062010-08-04T01:07:05.354+01:002010-08-04T01:07:05.354+01:00UN Troops showing up - what a blessing - we should...UN Troops showing up - what a blessing - we should get this lucky... don't think of it as an invading horde... but as resupply at your doorstep. <br /><br />It may be odd or unusual to drop the hammer on a LEO in this area (and you had better have a good reason if you don not expect to go to jail for awhile) but you wont be able to hold 'em back when 1st Lt Sung of the Chinese contingent of the UN comes to confiscate guns.<br /><br />The UN or Obama's 100k Militia - this is our "Winter War" and we finally get a chance to better the Finn's 40:1 kill Ratio... and all of those goodies... ADA to name one of them... all the stuff we need.Scamp1776https://www.blogger.com/profile/04904349301776969410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469109905542911409.post-38967060598385757452010-08-03T20:45:35.134+01:002010-08-03T20:45:35.134+01:00I am also a student of history and recent conflict...I am also a student of history and recent conflicts but I think it will go a bit differently. The government loses control and the conflicts outlined in this blog will start. After the first few images of ethnic cleansing and massacres broadcast around the world the UN will have countries beating down it's doors to send troops to protect Americas minorities. Troops from China, Africa, and Mexico will be welcomed by the minorites in New York, California and Texas. They'll slowly put the squeeze on the middle of America. When the conflict is over we won't have much of a country left. People who have read this post should know that it is indeed possible and we should do everything we can to stop it. We live and/or die together.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469109905542911409.post-37507854530082228202010-08-03T03:53:45.443+01:002010-08-03T03:53:45.443+01:00I can't get most of my friends to accept that ...I can't get most of my friends to accept that the country is in deep trouble financially forget about CW2. I can just imagine having this conversation with them. Can you say padded cell! <br /><br />Anon IGGY <br />You have to take into account two factors.<br />1 Your already part of a reasonably large group in your area. Large enough to band together and have a good chance if you were in any way prepared.<br /><br />2 The conservative types aren't the racists we are portrayed in the media. I'm sure the Conservative/libertarian types would see your sub/group as natural allies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469109905542911409.post-28033487209142180002010-08-02T23:55:34.807+01:002010-08-02T23:55:34.807+01:00This is what the enemy wants: us to come apart and...This is what the enemy wants: us to come apart and fight along racial and economic lines when those that have socially and economically engineered this metacrisis will wait until we've broken each other down to the point where we will accept their slavery in exchange for accepting their food.<br /><br />The only way to break the enemy's gameplan is to expose it for what it is. Or initiate a new paradigm-us against them.J. Crofthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17804199859716308843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469109905542911409.post-79478101503677443132010-08-01T17:42:22.538+01:002010-08-01T17:42:22.538+01:00How about the axis of want-to-carry-own-weight vs....How about the axis of want-to-carry-own-weight vs. want-to-be-looters-and-regulators? That will split right through white and blue collar families. Opinion on open borders is a convenient litmus test.<br /><br />The looter-regulators of both poor blue-collar conservative and white-collar liberal will fragment into tribes that are color/race/culture homogeneous, because they understand they really are at political-war with everyone else. The open-borders want-to-carry-own-weight folks won't care so much about color or culture, because they already know they can live in peace with foreign neighbors.<br /><br />I would like to see the open-borders folks carefully maneuver out from between the front lines of the impinging looter-regulator armies. Let the collectivists devour each other.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469109905542911409.post-86575956531521562712010-08-01T00:20:00.616+01:002010-08-01T00:20:00.616+01:00Many in thee middle class think they are being loo...Many in thee middle class think they are being looted by both the poor (via government) and the rich (via corporations, and lately via government bailing out corporations).Mickey Collinsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469109905542911409.post-71612225569786408972010-07-31T23:00:39.486+01:002010-07-31T23:00:39.486+01:00http://scampanaro.blogspot.com/http://scampanaro.blogspot.com/Scamp1776https://www.blogger.com/profile/04904349301776969410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469109905542911409.post-14972470132357471082010-07-31T22:21:09.165+01:002010-07-31T22:21:09.165+01:00The lines of demarcation may also be heavily influ...The lines of demarcation may also be heavily influenced by who is dependent upon the government and who is not. <br /><br />That's an angle of economic influence that is being maximized now by the Fed Gov via the Cloward-Piven strategy.<br /><br />I don't see how that can be anything other than a major divider when the two way economic range turns into a two way shooting range.<br /><br />Keep you powder dry (and free of government strings....),<br /><br />Atlas ShrugAtlas Shrughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10454358588298316155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469109905542911409.post-90566872915730807702010-07-31T17:52:01.465+01:002010-07-31T17:52:01.465+01:00Anon 4:18am (Mammoth),
Race was only one of multi...Anon 4:18am (Mammoth),<br /><br />Race was only one of multiple lines of division, and it has exceptions.<br /><br />The idea that the middle class would side with the poor is certainly not something you can rest assured will happen, not unless the middle class suffers some sort 'have-nots' misery that would change their political beliefs.<br /><br />The "Poorer to Richer" axis is probably a fair place to start in drawling lines where division would come about, but the division in political views will produce that "Poorer to Richer" on both sides.<br /><br />A line that could divide the "Poorer to Richer" in the middle class may be drawn between those which are self-reliant and those which feel the 'other side has something they should have'.<br /><br />Political views are showing us daily how that division is to be a problem and where one or more of the lines will be.kbphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11814695387546108048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469109905542911409.post-11335842282604979762010-07-31T12:25:56.694+01:002010-07-31T12:25:56.694+01:00In Iraq one of my FOBs was in the center of a town...In Iraq one of my FOBs was in the center of a town that was a home for a minority within the larger province. When the insurgents (from the religious group that was the majority within the province) fired mortars at us (which happened frequently) they "scored" whether or not the rounds actually landed inside the FOB. <br /><br />If the rounds missed, the insurgents still hit the minority in the town around us. Either way the insurgents were happy.<br /><br />--GardenSERFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469109905542911409.post-26301322212512835022010-07-31T04:18:37.200+01:002010-07-31T04:18:37.200+01:00Your thesis fails because it assumes CW2 will be f...Your thesis fails because it assumes CW2 will be fought along racial lines.<br /><br />I think it will be fought between the middle class and poor on one side, and the rich on the other.<br /><br />It will be a cakewalk for the poor and middle class. We have all the guns, after all.<br /><br />-MammothAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469109905542911409.post-36891499465812178162010-07-31T03:59:25.689+01:002010-07-31T03:59:25.689+01:00Greetings, comrade peasants.
I am Thomas W. Chitt...Greetings, comrade peasants.<br /><br />I am Thomas W. Chittum, author of Civil War Two, the coming break up of America.<br /><br />My book can be published in Ebook form at<br />http://www.amfirstbooks.com/<br /><br />My seldom updated web site is <br />http://www.buyagong.com/<br /><br />May the Cyclops eat you next to last.<br />TWCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469109905542911409.post-31125063325404742192010-07-30T21:52:05.955+01:002010-07-30T21:52:05.955+01:00Cuban Anonymous (Iggy)
I live in SoFla and I am f...Cuban Anonymous (Iggy)<br /><br />I live in SoFla and I am fairly sure that most conservatives, like myself, KNOW that the Cuban community is very Pro-Liberty and Pro-America.<br /><br />Get Prepared.practicalprepperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13183031456425796958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469109905542911409.post-6019859926906874752010-07-30T20:11:28.105+01:002010-07-30T20:11:28.105+01:00I live in L.A. Guess I'm screwed.I live in L.A. Guess I'm screwed.Jimmy the Saintnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469109905542911409.post-2818044226927664972010-07-30T19:18:02.061+01:002010-07-30T19:18:02.061+01:00Cuban Anon:
The answer is the same for all right-...Cuban Anon:<br /><br />The answer is the same for all right-minded folks:<br /><br />- build tribes (like-minded folks who have a "any means necessary" mindset)<br />- prepare/train<br />- stockpile provisions<br />- consider relocation, either in advance or as late-stage preparation<br />- spend considerable time/resources on the fallback/"oh sh*t" plans, as Plan A will not survive first contact<br /><br />Good luck.Concerned Americanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05257709418390025182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2469109905542911409.post-48065538722258962712010-07-30T17:41:06.343+01:002010-07-30T17:41:06.343+01:00More. Please, lots more.More. Please, lots more.Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18410045398729979497noreply@blogger.com